Utilizing Electrolysis, Can The Hydrogen And Oxygen In Water Be Seperated Into Gases And Feed Into An ICE Engine As Fuel?
Originally posted 2009-08-03 23:44:30.
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Utilizing Electrolysis, Can The Hydrogen And Oxygen In Water Be Seperated Into Gases And Feed Into An ICE Engine As Fuel?
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OMG I wish!
I am totally sick of how high gasoline has gotten.
yeah you can by using a steam engine
no, sorry only gas. i bet u really knew that though,lol.
Don’t know, buy my car very often runs on air.
we already do, here in Australia there are hydro cars.
I bet we could, but our government is too into corporations to allow it now.
There have been speculation over the years that they did or where in the process of developing a water powered car … whether they are true or not I’m not sure … I’m sure with enough hard work they could make it happen.
Though I’m sure Bush and his good ol’ boys would never let that fly … think of the money they’d loose … they love big oil they have lots of money invested in it.
Not yet. it can be done but its to risky at this point. when they are splitting the molecules it forms a reaction and they are not able to contain it properly yet.
yes there is discovery which uses water in the car as fuel. they break H2O into HHO which is highly efficient.
Water can be separated in hydrogen and oxygen using electrolysis. That requires electrical energy which needs to come from some other source. The hydrogen can be combusted or used in a hydrogen fuel cell to power a vehicle.
A man invented a car that ran on water.
The petroleum companies gave him millions and millions of dollars for the rights to his invention.
Then got rid of it.
Money talks.
I kid you not.
The Hydrogen Powered car has been in the works for years, now, but an ICE engine, I’m not so sure would work. Internal combustion engines work on the principal of COMBUSTION, or an explosion. Multiple explosions would then cause the ice to melt, thereby rendering your engine useless. And if you could use it for a short enough period as to not cause it to melt completely, it surely would melt a little and after shut-down, the water from the melted ice would freeze the parts together, again, rendering it useless. So no, I don’t think it would work in and ICE engine.
You are talking about something even worse than a perpetual motion machine, a machine that actually runs forever and you can extract energy from it. Sorry, the Universe does not work that way. It takes slightly more energy to separate the oxygen and hydrogen than you get by burning it. Apart from that the ic engine is far from 100% efficient, so you are going to run out of puff in seconds flat. Laws of thermodynamics have been known 150 years and are not defied by any process that has yet been identified. Mr R is repeating rubbish.
The problem is that the electrical power needed to electrolyze water is at least equal to the power you get back, assuming perfectly efficient electrolysis and perfectly efficient combustion. Unfortunately, nothing is perfect and electrolysis maximum theoretical efficiency is 80 to 94% (practially, we are quite far from this, with current efficiency ranging between 50 and 70%); while internal combustion engine have 25% efficiency, making the whole cycle (electrolysis to ICE) 17.5% efficient at best.
So, water electrolysis can only be looked at a way of loading up the power from a electrical power station into a vehicle, but given that batteries are 75 to 85% efficient (lead acid, which are not the most efficient, actually) while electical motor can be between 85 to 95% efficient, a rechargable battery to electrical engine set-up is at least 64% efficient, so an all electric approach makes a lot more sense if the infrastructure is present, total weight to charge ratio allows enough range, and the recharge time can be made short enough to “fill up” at service station along the road.
And all electric adds the possibility of regenerative braking, something that an hybrid ICE with hydrogen could however also provide.
Hydrogen’s actually better to use as fuel than water: it’s got better mileage than gasoline(!) and it’s as safe to use as gasoline. The chemical reaction is separated by a barrier, so when oxygen and the hydrogen fuel combine you’ve got water (safely) as a by-product. The only problem is that: 1) there’s not enuff hydrogen to go arond 2) we would all be refilling after every 100 miles, or else driving balloon cars b/c hydrogen takes up lots of space (= need big tank).
ICE (Internal Combustion Engines) can be run on water and the energy required for the electrolysis is only a slight fraction of the energy it produces, therefore the answer is ‘Yes’.
Those engaging in the science of electrolysis have been murdered or threatened with murder if they do not comply to stop.
It’s not perpetual motion, in that it requires a fuel, fortunately in this case it’s water. ICE efficiency is irrelevant when you have all the water fuel you need.
It’s hard to control the slaves if they can suddenly get fuel for free. When they work, fight, kill and die for energy, you control them and their lives. Ask any Rockefellar, Rothschilds or Bush.